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"You really don't learn and grow if you don't take on new challenges. I think that's the only way you can develop.”
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You’ve had an incredible career that’s taken you from Lebanon to the US and now Saudi Arabia. Can you walk us through your journey and the key moments that shaped it?
I started my finance career young, working full-time during college for a Luxembourg-based oil and gas group. It gave me early exposure to international reporting, IFRS, and real-world consolidation, which was rare at the time, especially in Lebanon. From there, I moved across industries, entertainment, food and beverage, real estate, and renewables, each with its own learning curve. One of the most pivotal roles was with NES, where I stepped in as interim CFO for the US entity, overseeing operations in the Nordics and Central Europe. It was unfamiliar territory, US GAAP, smart metering, international audits, but I said yes before overthinking it. That role taught me how quickly you grow when you take on something you're not quite ready for. More recently, I relocated to Saudi with my family to lead finance for the Middle East at Assystem Radicon. It was a major life shift, but the right one, for both career and personal growth.
You’ve led finance across continents, industries, and major transformations. If someone asked, “What kind of CFO are you?”. How would you describe your approach?
I don’t like to put labels on things, what matters is whether you’re competent or not. In finance, progress depends on more than experience; it’s about technical skills, business understanding, and strategic thinking. I’d describe myself as a strategic transformation leader who’s also hands-on. I believe in continuous learning and staying current, because the world is changing faster than we realize. Numbers aren’t just debit and credit, they tell a story, and I encourage my team to see them that way. Even junior accountants shouldn’t think like bookkeepers. You can’t succeed alone in this role; you need empowered, supported teams. Especially in SMEs, being hands-on means being informed and involved, not micromanaging, but understanding the full picture.
You worked your way up from senior accountant to CFO across multiple countries. What’s one leadership lesson you wish you’d learned earlier?
One leadership lesson I wish I’d learned earlier is how to handle criticism. In the beginning, even constructive feedback would stress me out, not outwardly, but internally. Over time, I realized that valid criticism is often what helps you grow the most. I also used to react quickly, getting frustrated or angry too easily. With maturity, I’ve learned to pause, sleep on things, and revisit them with a calmer mindset. Another key lesson came from a former manager who told me, “No one is indispensable.” At the time, I didn’t fully accept it, but now I understand, no matter how impactful you are, life and business move on. That perspective has stayed with me.
At NES, you led major debt and business restructures. When you’re steering a company through financial uncertainty, what’s the principle you always come back to?
When navigating financial uncertainty, the principle I always come back to is cash management. I once showed a board slide with a tree growing dollars and said, “I wish this were real, but it’s not.” You need to manage working capital properly, collect receivables, plan payables, and control costs smartly. That doesn’t mean slashing headcount recklessly; short-term fixes can backfire. Risk management is just as important. The real danger is not foreseeing issues. I’ve had to manage cash flow daily in some situations, and rolling forecasts are a must. Access to diversified funding is also crucial, even if you don’t need it today, you should be prepared. And relationships matter deeply, especially in our region. Payments often depend on personal connections, so strong communication with stakeholders, customers, and vendors is essential. Finally, recurring revenue can offer stability, if one part of the business struggles, another can carry the weight. It’s never just one fix; it’s a full cycle of planning, foresight, and smart relationships.
With tighter cash positions and rising borrowing costs, how are you thinking about cash flow differently today and what practices do you think more finance teams in the GCC need to adopt?
With tighter cash positions and rising borrowing costs, I know I need to think about cash flow with more agility and foresight. Static monthly forecasts are no longer enough, my team and I need rolling forecasts and near real-time visibility to stay ahead. I also recognize the importance of diversifying funding sources, even when liquidity doesn’t feel like an immediate concern. For me, automation should take over repetitive finance tasks like invoice processing and reconciliation, so that my team can focus on what really matters: strategic planning and scenario analysis. And especially here in the GCC, where trust often shapes business decisions, I’ve learned that maintaining strong relationships with vendors, customers, and financial partners gives us critical flexibility during uncertain times.
AI and automation are changing how finance teams operate. What’s one area where tech has made a real difference for your team and one where human judgment still matters most?
Accounts payable is a good example of where automation helps. We’ve implemented systems that automate invoice entry, payment planning, and other AP tasks. That saves time and reduces errors. It also allows our team to focus on more meaningful work, analysis, reporting, and planning. We’re also exploring tools like Power BI and Copilot to help with analytics and reporting. While we’re not at the most advanced stage yet, we’re evaluating these tools to see how much value they can bring. But even with all that, human judgment still matters. Planning, analysis, strategy, those require a person. You can automate the data collection, but turning those numbers into a plan or telling the story behind them? That’s still a human task. Finance is about answering: where are we now, where do we want to go, and how do we get there?
When hiring for your finance team, what do you value more: someone who knows the numbers inside out or someone who’s not afraid to speak up? In other words, hard skills or soft skills?
Soft skills. Without question. Technical skills can be learned. Integrity and character cannot.
I always ask candidates: If I make a decision you don’t agree with, what would you do? The best answers come from people who say they’d respectfully speak up, share their point of view, and, if needed, put it in writing. One person gave me that answer, and I hired them. They’re now a financial controller in my team. I want people who challenge me, who ask questions, especially when something seems off. It’s not enough to just follow instructions. If someone knows, for example, that a tax treatment is wrong in a certain country and doesn’t say anything, they’re not doing their job. Soft skills also include ethics. These aren’t things you teach in a training session. People either have them or they don’t. Of course, we can guide and mentor fresh graduates. But that foundational integrity has to be there from the start.
Bio
Layal El Hassani is the Chief Financial Officer for the Middle East at Assystem Radicon, a leading engineering and project management firm driving energy transition and infrastructure transformation across the region. With over two decades of experience, Layal has led finance functions across Lebanon, the US, and Saudi Arabia, working in industries ranging from oil and gas to entertainment, real estate, renewables, and smart metering. She is known for her strategic thinking, hands-on leadership, and ability to navigate complex financial challenges with clarity and integrity. Layal believes in building empowered teams, leading transformation from the front, and using finance not just to report the past, but to shape the future.



"The biggest challenge wasn’t the procedures themselves but shifting the mindset, especially when it comes to sharing financial data and institutionalizing decision-making. Today, transparency means involving partners and investors in the information, and clear communication is the key to achieving that.

What are the factors that really shaped your career?
At the beginning, people may differ in what they see as milestones. Some may say education or getting a degree is the turning point. For me, the real change was an opportunity because I’m someone who likes to look beyond core business and learn from other departments. Unfortunately, not many companies accept this, but I advise everyone to seize such opportunities because they give you knowledge and skills, and from there you start to change. This is what happened to me. Others may have different answers, but I consider the opportunity to change is to put more effort and seek more knowledge.
Why did you move from Jordan to Saudi Arabia?
Saudi Arabia is a big market with a lot of opportunities and growth. I started in Jordan’s domestic market and then moved. Saudi Arabia offers more opportunities than others. It is promising, and thank God I am still here because it has a future.
How would you describe your role during this transformation phase at AlMunif Pipes Company? What challenges did you face in convincing management, and how can finance professionals effectively deal with such challenges?
At this stage, my role was central in leading the transition from a family-owned business to a company under formal governance and transparency structures in preparation for entering the financial market. The biggest challenge wasn’t the procedures themselves but shifting the mindset, especially when it comes to sharing financial data and institutionalizing decision-making. While some may find this difficult, fortunately, our management was understanding and aware of the importance of this transformation. Convincing leadership isn’t always easy, especially when it involves making previously confidential information public. That’s why financial experts must be able to clearly communicate concepts and policies in a professional way that suits the audience’s background, particularly if they lack financial expertise. Today, transparency means involving partners and investors in the information, and clear communication is the key to achieving that.
You have spent many years in the industry. What are the challenges for the people in finance?
The industrial sector is one of the most challenging for financial people because it relies heavily on cost accounting and administrative decisions, which are complicated. There are challenges related to the diversity of costs and decision-making in this sector.
In your journey, if you had to talk about your experience, you were in the United States working on collective financial tasks. What was the most important lesson you learned?
Leaders in companies must know how to speak the same language because sometimes companies in a group operate in different countries. Being dynamic and unified in communication is essential. Independence in reports and communication makes things easier. I learned this and still apply it.
What do you think about the management of financial flows? Is there any advice you'd like to give finance managers?
Cash flow management is simple in concept , it’s about timing cash in and out. Timing is very important. Forecasting cash flow with multiple scenarios is crucial. If cash flow is low, you need to reduce time and work on a smaller scale. Also, improving cash flow involves other factors like reducing average collection time.
How do you see the role of finance in line with Vision 2030?
Finance today is more strategic. To achieve more, it must follow the rhythm of Saudi Arabia’s fast-growing economy. Financial decisions, startups, and strategies must be effective and aligned with Vision 2030, which is a long-term strategic plan. Financial administrations must prepare to be part of this change and build future plans, including predictions and expectations starting now.
We see a great emphasis on the acquisition of technology. How do you deal with technology today?
Technology is part of business and must be integrated because it speeds decision-making. It is used in accounting, financial management, analysis, and production. Companies use technology in various ways; it would be strange not to use technology in industry today.
From your experience in building a team, should the financial professional think from a business perspective or should he have technical skills?
There should be a balance, but I am business-oriented. As a finance leader, you make things easier while the business runs. Sometimes financial procedures can overpower business, and sometimes vice versa. I prefer business to come first.
If you could automate one important financial task forever, what would you choose?
I would choose to automate cash flow management through a system that accurately forecasts cash flow. I’ve already started working on it, and hopefully, it will be successful.
What’s more exhausting: budget season or audit season?
Budgeting season is more difficult because it requires more effort. Reviewing the numbers is clear, especially since I come from an auditing background, but preparing the budget takes more time, thought, and coordination.
Do you use any tool with your team regularly other than Excel?
Not on a daily basis, but we often use SQL – Server Query Language. I sometimes work directly with the server, which makes it easier to extract some ready reports from the system without needing manual access. It’s one of the tools that has helped me a lot, especially since I have some basic knowledge of programming.
Bio
With over a decade of extensive experience in accounting, auditing, and financial management Dr. Mohammad Maaytah, a PhD scholar and CMA (Certified Management Accountant) has built a proven track record of driving organizational growth and creating long-term sustainable value. Based in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, he currently serves as Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of AlMunif Pipes Company, where he has successfully aligned financial strategies with organizational objectives to strengthen liquidity, enhance operational efficiency and support the Kingdom’s economic transformation in line with Vision 2030.




“Transformation is not a one-day story. It’s about how you manage the middle, the broken pieces, the low-hanging fruit, the structural changes. That’s where real leadership shows.”

You’ve had such a dynamic career across sectors - public, private, IPOs, transformations. Before we get into all of that, I’d love for you to tell us a bit about your journey.
My career has been a long, dynamic journey, one I often compare to a flight, with different phases, destinations, and moments of turbulence. It began in 1994 at American Express, where I built a strong foundation in finance, moving through roles like accountant, chief accountant, and supervisor while earning my CPA. From there, I took on leadership roles across both the public and private sectors, helping organizations through major transformations, whether it was transitioning from cash to accrual accounting, implementing ERP systems like Oracle and SAP, or preparing for IPOs. One of the highlights was leading the IPO of the National Company for Learning and Education in Saudi Arabia, where I saw firsthand how a family-run business could evolve into a publicly listed market leader. Over the last 30 years, I’ve worked across different regions—including the Middle East, North Africa, and Europe, gaining perspective not just on finance, but on people, culture, and change. Each experience added a new layer to my journey, and I still believe there’s more to come.
You’ve worked in both the public and private sectors. What’s something you learned in government that the private sector often overlooks and vice versa?
Working across both public and private sectors taught me that each side operates with a very different mindset, and both have blind spots. In government roles, I saw how ambitious and forward-looking public sector organizations can be, especially in places like Saudi Arabia where there’s strong backing for transformation and investment in long-term systems. They often have the freedom to build for the future without the same budget constraints or short-term pressures that private companies face. On the other hand, the private sector is typically more disciplined when it comes to cost control, ROI, and decision-making speed, because they’re accountable to shareholders and competition is real. What the private sector sometimes overlooks is the value of investing early in foundational systems and long-term planning. And what the public sector can miss is the urgency and commercial edge that comes from operating in a more competitive environment. The sweet spot lies in borrowing the best of both, being strategic like the public sector, but lean and execution-focused like the private one.
You led the IPO for the National Company for Learning and Education. What do people not talk about enough when it comes to taking a family-run company public?
What people don’t talk about enough is how emotionally and operationally intense it is to take a family-run company public. On paper, it looks like a financial milestone, but behind the scenes, it’s a massive transformation. Many companies are excited about the idea of listing, but underestimate how much internal change is required to actually get there. From restructuring governance to tightening financial controls and shifting the mindset from family-run to shareholder-driven, it’s a cultural shift as much as a strategic one. There’s often resistance, unexpected costs, and a realization that the six-month IPO timeline you envisioned might actually take two years. In the case of the National Company for Learning and Education, I joined during the final stretch of IPO preparation, and even then, it was clear that their earlier years of groundwork had made all the difference. They invested in systems, transparency, and professional leadership early, and that’s what helped them succeed post-listing. It’s not just about going public, it’s about staying credible once you do.
“Transformation” is often used as a buzzword but you’ve done it for real. What does it actually look like in the messy middle?
Transformation looks nothing like the polished slide decks, it’s resistance, setbacks, and a lot of uncomfortable change. You’re dealing with legacy systems people have used for 20 or 30 years, processes built on habit, and teams who are comfortable in their routines. It’s like waking someone from a deep sleep and asking them to run a marathon. The real work starts with mindset, getting leadership to lead from the front, breaking through resistance on the ground, and making sure people see the “why” before the “how.” Change doesn’t stick unless it’s people-led, not just system-driven. In my experience, you can’t force transformation, you have to seed it, nurture it, and walk through the discomfort with your team. That’s when it becomes real.
How do you get teams to embrace change rather than resist it?
The real shift happens when you stop just reporting numbers and start shaping decisions. Early in your career, it’s natural to focus on spreadsheets and reports, that’s how you build technical credibility. But to grow, you have to move from being the person who prepares the numbers to the person who guides the business with them. That means delegating the routine work, building a strong team, and freeing yourself up to think strategically. You spend more time with other departments, understanding their goals, challenges, and how finance can help. It’s also about communication, translating data into insights that drive action. The ones who make the leap are those who become business partners, not just finance experts. They know the numbers, but they also know the people, the story, and the impact behind them.
Many finance professionals struggle to evolve beyond the “numbers person.” What separates those who do?
The ones who evolve beyond being just the “numbers person” are the ones who realize that technical skills alone won’t get you to the leadership table. It’s not enough to prepare the reports, you need to understand what those numbers mean for the business, and more importantly, help others understand too. That shift starts when you build a strong team you can trust with the day-to-day, so you can focus on the bigger picture. It means spending more time with operations, HR, sales, learning their challenges and showing how finance can support growth, not just control costs. It’s about becoming a translator between data and decisions. The professionals who grow are the ones who step out from behind the spreadsheet and become active, trusted partners to the business.
Where should finance teams lean in when it comes to AI, and where should they be cautious?
Finance teams should lean in on using AI to automate repetitive, time-consuming tasks, things like document analysis, reconciliations, and report generation. These are areas where AI can save hours, reduce human error, and give teams more time to focus on strategic work. But where they need to be cautious is in over-relying on it without validation. AI can speed things up, but it can’t replace judgment. You still need human oversight to review outputs, spot context-specific risks, and make informed decisions. The mindset shouldn’t be “AI will do it for me”, it should be “AI will help me do it better.” Use it as an assistant, not a replacement. And most importantly, lead by example. When teams see their leaders experimenting with and benefiting from AI, they’re more likely to adopt it in meaningful ways.
How do you encourage your team to adopt AI in their workflows?
I keep it simple: I show them, not just tell them. If someone on the team is spending hours on a task, summarizing a report, cleaning data, building a model, I’ll step in and ask, “Have you tried using AI for this?” Then I’ll walk them through how it can help, even if it’s just something like ChatGPT or a basic tool. Most people resist new tech because it feels overwhelming or irrelevant. But when they see a real example, when AI helps them finish in 30 minutes what used to take 3 hours, that’s when it clicks. I don’t push tools they’re not ready for, but I do lead by example and create a culture where it’s safe to try, fail, and learn. You build adoption by making AI useful, not mandatory.
You’ve spent much of your career in Saudi. How is Vision 2030 showing up in everyday business conversations?
Vision 2030 isn’t just a national plan anymore, it’s shaping real, everyday business decisions. You see it in how companies think bigger, move faster, and invest more confidently in growth and innovation. Whether it’s expanding into new sectors, modernizing systems, or scaling operations, there’s a clear sense that the environment is ready for bold moves. I’ve worked with businesses that set 5-year goals and hit them in 2 because the momentum around them pushed everyone forward. Vision 2030 has created a mindset shift, companies aren’t just reacting to change, they’re driving it. And when you operate in a market that’s this ambitious, it raises the bar for everyone.
What advice would you give a first-time CFO in their first 90 days?
Listen first, act later. Your first 90 days as a CFO shouldn’t be about proving yourself, it should be about understanding the business inside out. Spend time with people at every level, not just the executive team. Ask questions, read the financials, study the systems, and observe the dynamics. Don’t assume you need to have all the answers on day one. Instead, build trust by being curious, collaborative, and clear about your intent. Set a simple plan, weekly goals, checkpoints with leadership, and space to adjust as you learn more. And remember, you’re not there to change everything overnight. You’re there to add value without disrupting what’s already working. Be humble, be strategic, and let your impact grow over time.
Where is your journey headed in the next five years?I still see myself in the cockpit, flying, not landing just yet. While I once thought I’d slow down by 60, I’ve realized there’s more to contribute, more to build. Over the next five years, I see myself continuing in leadership roles where I can drive meaningful change, whether that’s guiding a company through transformation, mentoring the next generation of finance leaders, or even taking on strategic consulting projects. Eventually, I do hope to return home to Egypt and live a quieter life with my family. But for now, the journey continues, with purpose, energy, and the belief that there’s still plenty of value to create before I touch down.
Bio
With over 20 years of experience in finance and more than 15 years dedicated to accounting advisory, financial planning, IFRS, and budget control, Amro brings deep technical expertise and executive leadership to every role he takes on.
His background spans corporate governance, policy and procedure development, and organizational planning, with a consistent focus on aligning financial operations to international standards. He also has in-depth experience in ERP system planning, implementation, and optimization.
Known for his analytical skills, strong team leadership, and clear communication, Amro combines financial precision with a practical, results-driven approach.




"Being good at finance isn’t just about creating a solid P&L or looking at your financials. You have to step outside the boundaries of your own department and then ask questions and look at things from a bigger perspective."

You’ve had a non-traditional path into tech and finance leadership. How did it all begin?
About 10 years ago, I thought I’d become a partner at an audit firm. That was the plan.
But my first real opportunity came from a company setting up in Riyadh, no office, just a warehouse. I convinced my dad to let me interview there, and that’s how I joined Wadi.com. It was fast-paced, experimental, and messy in the best way. Within months, I was building full P&Ls, not just crunching numbers.
Later I joined Shipa to build their Saudi operations from scratch, which taught me a lot about legal setup, regulation, and how competitive the market really is.
Now at Squadio, I lead finance and strategy. It’s not just a job, it’s a creative lab. We’re building, evolving, and scaling, and I love that no two weeks look the same.
You stepped into a CFO role after years in operational finance. What changed when the job became more about leadership?
You have to step outside the boundaries of your own department and ask bigger questions. It’s no longer about “Are my numbers right?” It’s about “What are we building, and is it sustainable?”
Leadership, in any function, means you can’t stay in your silo. You have to challenge others, understand the product, and zoom out to the bigger picture.
Finance is often seen as a bottleneck in fast-moving startups. How do you avoid that?
Finance needs to be embedded in your system. I don’t want people constantly going back and forth with the finance team for approvals.
So I make it a point to align early. I’ll sit with sales or other teams and tell them what’s doable and what’s not so they don’t need to ask every time. We also build things into the system itself.
For example, when we automated hiring, we created a hiring projection tracker in ClickUp. If a role was above the approved threshold, it was a no-go. If it was within, you could proceed without asking me. That’s the goal: self-awareness and clarity, not bottlenecks.
You’ve worked closely with investors. What do they care about most that finance teams sometimes miss?
Investors mostly want to focus on sustainability. Not just your burn or your margins or your payback. They care about what value your business brings to this region and whether it will last.
One round of 5 or 10 million should create real value, not just lead to another round. Also, not everything from Silicon Valley applies here. You need a model that works for this market.
When you’re hiring finance talent at a startup, what do you look for?
Exceptional communication skills and curiosity. I want people who will ask questions, not just run numbers. A lot of finance folks prefer to stay in the background. I don’t want that. I want someone who will say, “Let’s book a meeting and understand why this happened.”
A red flag for me is a corporate mindset. In a startup, we might’ve made the process three days ago in a meeting. There’s no manual. You have to be flexible.
I work on an 80–20 rule: 80 percent is good enough. Move on. If you’re obsessed with presentation formats and perfection, you won’t survive in a startup. It’s not about pixel-perfect. It’s about impact.
What’s one tool that genuinely changed your day-to-day?
Power BI. It completely changed how we work. We used to manually pull data just to get one number. Now we have live dashboards where you can drill down as much as you want.
It’s not just for finance. We use it across the business. From open roles to hiring pipelines to profitability forecasts. And it’s live. That changed everything for us.
We also use SIFT Analytics, which integrates with Xero. It helps with consolidation, ratios, and analytics all in one place.
You’ve built ERP, payroll, budgeting, and compliance from scratch. What’s one painful but valuable lesson from that?
You never realize how fast you can scale. And then the system you picked becomes a bottleneck.
It’s fine to start with basic tools. That’s normal in early stages. But don’t over-customize or over-engineer too soon. Always think: can this scale with us?
Pick tools that are easy to use. If it’s too complicated, your team won’t use it properly. Start small, but build with tomorrow in mind.
You’ve lived in Saudi for 20 years. What excites you most about the ecosystem today?
We’re no longer just replicating global products. We’re building for this region from scratch. That’s exciting.
Things are moving fast: serious funding, serious hiring, serious products. And that creates a lot of new challenges too.
For finance teams, the biggest shift is understanding how to explain new business models, even when the regulator doesn’t fully exist yet. You have to help founders and auditors understand how money flows in and out. Education is as important as reporting.
What’s one thing finance professionals need to grow into leadership that they won’t learn from a course?
It’s confidence, honestly.
You can do all the certifications you want, but if you can’t talk to people, build relationships, or start a conversation, you’ll struggle.
You’re not going to walk into a room and say, “Hi, are you raising money?” That’s not how it works. You need to ask, “Where are you from?” “Why are you here?” That’s how relationships start.
So if there’s one course I’d recommend, it’s not a finance course. It’s a communication one.
Bio
Maheen Wahid is a CFO who thrives at the intersection of chaos and creation, where startups are raw, scrappy, and ready to scale. With 12+ years of experience across MENA’s tech scene, she’s built finance functions from zero, restructured pricing engines, and led investor-backed growth at companies like Wadi.com, Shipa Delivery, and Squadio. Maheen is known not just for her financial acumen, but for her ability to bring clarity to uncertainty, build teams with heart, and turn messy beginnings into structured, scalable businesses. An ACCA and data science graduate, she leads with sharp thinking, grounded execution, and a deep belief that finance should enable vision, not just report on it.




“A real CFO isn’t just managing numbers, they’re thinking forward, shaping mindsets, and elevating others. I tell my team: you're the CFO of your domain. Own it, lead it, present it.”

You've had a remarkable 25+ year journey in finance, spanning petroleum, chemicals, pharma, listed companies, joint ventures, and more. Can you walk us through your professional journey?
It’s been 26 years now, though it feels like I’m just getting started. I began my career at ExxonMobil, where I learned the value of being truly utilized and appreciated. That foundation taught me that how you achieve results matters as much as the results themselves. I carried those values into every role I held afterward. I spent the first half of my career in Egypt working with multinationals like Birla Group and Evyap Egypt, gaining experience with ERP systems like SAP and Oracle, establishing SOPs, and earning a Six Sigma Greenbelt. In 2010, I transitioned to Saudi Arabia, joining Ford KSA, followed by a pivotal role at Al-Mahed Group as Group Finance Director, where I prepared the company for an IPO. I later led finance transformation at Spimaco across 14 companies, followed by similar strategic work with Sigma Group and SNASCO Holding. Today, I serve as a Board Member at SNASCO and Group Advisor at Saudi Paper Group. It’s been a rewarding journey that continues to evolve.
How would you describe your approach as a CFO today, especially when managing different business models and ownership structures?
To me, a CFO is not just a Chief Financial Officer, they are a Chief Forward Officer. Our role is to turn historical data into strategic foresight. It’s about being predictive and even prescriptive, like a doctor who diagnoses and prescribes ahead of the problem. I believe in extending that mindset to my team. I tell each team member they are the CFO of their domain, which builds ownership and accountability. For example, when someone once resisted presenting, I pushed them to lead, and they exceeded expectations. That’s how you grow leaders.
You’ve led several finance transformations. What's one common mistake companies make when modernizing their finance systems?
The biggest mistake is confusing digitization with transformation. Digitization is a tool; transformation is a mindset. Many companies believe that adopting an ERP or robotic platform equates to transformation, but if people continue operating with the same old mindset, nothing truly changes. Successful transformation depends on four pillars: mindset, people, process, and systems. Overestimating tools while underestimating people is a common pitfall. Without leadership to align and guide this change, transformation will fall flat.
Transformation can be challenging. How do you keep your team motivated through it?
I believe trust is the key to transformation. And trust comes from human connection. I build this through personal engagement, lunches, casual conversations, and showing genuine interest in my team’s challenges. I sit with them during troubleshooting sessions, not as their CFO, but as a team member. Recently, I encouraged each department to explore AI applications relevant to their work and report back weekly. This involvement empowers them to lead change, not just follow it.
Is there a specific transformation you’re especially proud of?
Yes, at Spimaco, we aligned finance departments across 14 companies in multiple countries in preparation for a public listing. Within a year and two months, we implemented a 360-degree performance system across 37 departments, integrating Power BI with SAP HANA. Each department's strategic initiatives were cascaded into milestones and linked to broader corporate goals. I personally championed Power BI adoption and secured internal buy-in. The transformation not only improved visibility and accountability but also positioned us strongly for the IPO. I later replicated this framework at Sigma Group and SNASCO.
Everyone’s talking about AI in finance. Where do you see real impact today?
There are two areas where AI can drive real impact: cash intelligence and enterprise value forecasting. Cash is critical to any business, and real-time dashboards powered by RPA and integrated with ERPs allow finance leaders to monitor cash positions, receivables, payables, and treasury activities across banks. The second area is using AI to dynamically model and project enterprise value using operational and market data. These insights are invaluable during M&A planning, factory relocations, or growth strategy discussions. AI can move finance from being reactive to truly strategic.
You’ve hired across geographies. What do you look for when building your team?
Mindset, always. Skills can be learned, but mindset is foundational. I look for leadership potential, accountability, and alignment with the company’s values. I test for this through strategic questions rather than just technical assessments. And once they’re onboard, I invest in building them into leaders. At Al-Mahed Group, I even had a KPI called "prepare your successor." Leadership is about elevating others, not protecting your seat.
Vision 2030 is transforming every sector in Saudi. What’s one shift you’re seeing today that wasn’t happening five years ago?
The rise of female leadership. It’s been incredible to witness. At Al-Mahed and other companies, I worked alongside talented Saudi women who were fast learners and deeply committed. In the last couple of years, I’ve seen more female finance directors and strategy heads at conferences and on leadership panels. When given the opportunity and support, they’ve truly flourished. That’s a powerful cultural shift.



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The role of finance has really evolved and we really need finance to be a strategic business partner, not just being like a cost center or asset protection.

You’ve worked across multiple industries: healthcare, FMCG, and now commercial finance. How do you adapt your financial strategies when switching sectors?
The role of finance is consistent across industries. We manage cash flow, drive revenue growth, and support profitability. What changes is how those goals are achieved.
In pharma, finance focuses on lifecycle management, patents, compliance, and regulations. In FMCG, it's more commercially driven, with a focus on margins, retail negotiations, and gross-to-net profitability. So while the core remains, the approach shifts based on the industry.
How has your view of financial strategy evolved over time, especially as you’ve moved into senior leadership?
Finance used to be about compliance, protecting assets, preparing financials, and working with banks and auditors. It was more of a cost center.
Today, finance is expected to be a strategic partner. We are copilots to the CEO. We support digital transformation, contribute to commercial growth, help optimize operations, and play a major role in strategy. It's not just about control anymore. It is about enabling growth while staying responsible.
What skills have been most important for you as a finance leader?
Mindset comes first. You need to shift from process orientation to business partnership. From complexity to simplicity. From rules and reports to relationships and real outcomes.Then come the skills: strategic thinking, analysis, business acumen, communication, and curiosity. On the technical side, finance professionals need to understand technology. Not as developers, but enough to use it effectively to solve problems.
Let’s talk about the idea of finance being a “gatekeeper.” Do you agree with that perception?
In some companies, yes. Finance is seen as the function that always says no. No budget. Not compliant. But if we want to be real business partners, we have to help teams get to yes. If marketing asks for a campaign with no budget, instead of just rejecting it, we can work together to build a case. If the ROI is there, it may be worth the spend. We still ensure compliance and ethics. But we also enable smart decision-making.
You’ve been building an audience through your “Dr. FP&A” series on LinkedIn. What inspired that?
I’ve always believed finance doesn't have to be boring. A global CFO once told me, "This is the first time I’ve seen a finance presentation delivered like a marketing guy." That stuck with me.
In leadership meetings, marketing teams bring stories and videos. Finance teams bring spreadsheets. I started a training program on data storytelling to fix that. How to make finance presentations clear, visual, and engaging. “Dr. FP&A” is my way of sharing those ideas.
What’s your perspective on AI and automation in finance?
Technology is essential. It helps us free up time and focus on what matters. I implemented RPA in a previous company and automated 70 percent of the month-end closing. The bot handled data pulls, reports, and emails. AI helps with forecasting, scenario planning, even building presentations. It is embedded in many EPM tools now. Automation and AI allow us to shift from data gathering to delivering insights.
Between startups and large corporations, who has the edge in adopting technologies like AI?
Startups are fast. Less hierarchy, faster decisions. But large companies have the resources and scale to invest in big tools. The real edge comes from mindset. I know a CEO in Saudi running a complex operation, from farm to table, entirely on AI. Not because of budget, but because he believes in technology. Leadership mindset makes the difference.
How do you evaluate and choose the right tools to implement in your organization?
Start with the business problem, don’t follow trends just for the sake of it, then think about scalability. Can this solution grow across markets and teams? Third is ROI. But that’s not just about cost savings. A more motivated, efficient team is also ROI. Happy users, better workflows, and reduced manual work all contribute.
And finally, make sure the tool aligns with your business strategy and internal capabilities.
When hiring for your team, what do you prioritize: experience, education, or something else?
Mindset is the top priority. Everything else can be taught. I look for curiosity, adaptability, and the ability to simplify. Someone who can build relationships, communicate insights, and understand the business. Education and certifications help, but the way someone thinks and collaborates matters more.
What’s your approach to expense management and staying within budget?
It begins with planning. Resources must align with strategy and expected ROI.
Then comes real-time tracking. I ask my team to deduct expenses at the request or PO level, not after the spend happens. This gives better visibility and control from the start.
Do you have real-time visibility into expenses today?
Yes, through our ERP system. If the budget and cost centers are set up correctly, and POs are raised with the right data, we can track in real time. If that setup is missing, it becomes manual and inefficient.
As a CFO, what are the key metrics you track to measure success?
- Revenue growth, year over year or across multi-year trends.
- Profitability, especially gross margin by product or business unit.
- Bottom-line performance.
- And free cash flow. Cash is essential for sustaining and investing in the future.
Bio
Dr. Mohamed ELRouby is a global finance and strategy leader with over 22 years of experience across top multinational corporations including Johnson & Johnson, Novartis, Allergan, Takeda, and Energizer. Throughout his career, he has held senior finance roles across multiple regions, driving strategic transformation and financial excellence on a global scale.
He is a recognized international finance speaker and author, known for his thought leadership in financial planning and corporate strategy. Dr. ELRouby has been featured among the Global Top 200 Power Leaders and was named Best FP&A Leader in the Middle East. He also received the “10 Best CFOs in Asia” award and is an active member of the MEA FP&A Council, appointed by the Association for Financial Professionals (AFP).
He holds several distinguished certifications: CGMA (Chartered Global Management Accountant) from CIMA UK, FPAC (Certified Corporate FP&A Professional) from AFP USA, CSCA (Certified in Strategy and Competitive Analysis) from IMA USA, and OKRP (Certified OKR Practitioner) from the OKR Institute.
Dr. ELRouby also holds an MBA in Finance & Investment from the Arab Academy for Science and Technology, and a Doctorate in Management, with a research focus on Generative AI and the future of finance.
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